PS 164 Alumni

David Neumann Class of 1971
I lived up the block on 76th Ave (“138-48” to be exact).

I practically LIVED in the playground of PS 164, playing stickball, baseball, tag, basketball, football, knock-hockey (wooden sets supplied by the
“parkie”, and squash. We climbed the fences and jumped on top of the backstop. We ran backwards up the “sliding pond”. Or we would
lay face down atop the heavy metal swings and do somersaults or stand on them and swing. No rubber ground protection in those days!

When a ball would fall down the school stairs outside behind the wrought-iron gates, we would “shoot” for who would get it…once-twice-three shoot!!
We thought the water fountain next to the parkies shed was the best water in the world!

If not playing in the schoolyard, we played in the “alleys” behind our row houses on 76 Ave. Every conceivable game was played- my favorite was “hide and seek with a base in which your hiding teammates could set you free if you had been caught and put in jail. In the winter we took out our sleds and went down two different hills leading down into the alleys. I remember it like it was yesterday.

We would walk to the stores on Main Street: Mama Lucy (one dollar bought you two slices and a soda”, Jackies Luncheonette (“Whoose next boyss”), the
“5 and 10” to buy some junk, Bartons for chocolate, Greenes for toys (later this became “Middle Earth”, a head shop selling black-light posters, pot pipes and bongs).

And of course the Main St Movie Theatre. I remember going to double features on Sat afternoon. They had “old lady matron’s” who would walk around the dark theatre with flashlights looking for which kids were throwing stuff at the screen or each other…hilarious!!!!! There was a butcher on the corner of the same block.
Beyond that a drugstore where I bought my first jock-strap (I know-- too much information!)

How about the huge cracked-bell inside the bank on Main St with the library in the back? The next block had the A&P grocer. I can still picture how the store was organized. “The” fish store on Main St had sawdust on the floor and a cat in the window…like the old days…..wait…it was the old days!!! “The” shoe store was where I got every pair of shoes and sneakers I ever wore back then.

Across the street from the bank on the other side of Main St was Willies, another luncheonette (We called them “Candy Stores”) where we bought huge amounts of candy such as….lickem-aid, wax bottles, rock-candy with a string, chicklets, bazooka joe bubble gum, Goldenberg’s peanut chews, bubble-gum cigarettes that would puff at the end, red-licorice swirls etc. etc. Someone told me that Gene Simmons from the rock group KISS was related to the owner. True?

When really adventurous, we would walk all the way down main street to Angelo’s pizza, or take the Q44 bus from Vleigh Place to Queens Blvd then walk to Jahn’s
Ice cream parlor, or take the bus into Flushing, or walk to Wainwrights department store in Fresh Meadows. We would ride our bicycles everywhere, including down to Park Drive East. Wow.

With whom did I do all this? Jason Steiker, My brother Peter, Seum Chung, Steve Lebhar, Sandy Kingsley, Howard Roman, etc. In the playground the players included all of the above plus Jeffrey Strauss, Steven Ludwig, Jay Finkelstein and many others I forget. Hitting the “top deck” of the fences was a home run. On weekends we didn’t even go home for lunch!

I too remember every teacher I had at PS 164-

Kindergarten: Mrs. Finkelstein and Mrs. Alexander
First Grade: Mrs. Bloom
Second Grade: Mrs. Silverblatt
Third Grade: Miss Addonizio (Had a huge crush on her!)
Fourth Grade: Mrs. Hoffman (Couldn't stand her).
Fifth Grade: Mrs. Feehan (Formerly Mrs. Addonizio; crush still present!).
Sixth Grade: Mrs. Rothbird

On Fridays the boys had to wear ties for Assembly. Once I forgot to and the punishment was I had to sit in the back of the first grade class for the time period—I was in the fourth grade! Every assembly, play or meeting in the auditorium required that we march in-line by class and take our seats while Mrs Farkas played “Anchors Away” on the piano. Then we had to march out to the same tune when the assembly was over. Come on people, you must remember that!!.

A great treat was to be chosen by the teacher to clean the erasers with a special vacuum, located in a small room off the main school corridor. Or get picked at the end of the day to wash the chalk board with a wet eraser. Or carry the milk cartons into the lunchroom each morning.

The teacher’s pets (always a girl) got the highest honor every day- to take a message to another teachers office or to Mr Gannon the principal , to Mr Ricca who followed him as principal, or to Mr Minogue the vice principal.

Every morning before heading to our classrooms, we had to line up by class, either outside in the playground if the weather was warm, or in the gym. Mrs. Sondike, the mean disciplinarian, would stand on a chair and yell at all of us to be quiet.

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Hi David,

I remember just about all of that!! I did, however, forget about "Anchors Away"...as soon as I read it I remembered, sang it in my head and smiled!!

I also remember the Spelling Bee's we had every year and the Science Fairs! One year my Dad took a real Flounder and removed all the meat, leaving only the organs and the bottom (Back) skin. He then tried to preserve it and we identified all the parts. I rememberthis so well because we didn't do such a good job preserving it and after 2 days in my 4th grade classroom (Mrs. Finkelstein) we walked in one morning and the classroom STUNK!!! We opened all the windows and Millie brought up Rose scented air freshener....NOT A GOOD IDEA!!! Needless to say we had to throw the whole thing out!!!

I also remember the Bake sales and Mr. Ricca's wife would bake special cakes that would get raffeled off! I remember in the 3rd Grade there was a "Pete Day" for Mr. Ricca's Sheepdog and Pete walked through a bunch of raffle tickets to pick a winner. I believe the winner got to have dinner with Mr & Mrs Ricca and Pete of course!!

I remember those crazy Metal Monkey Bars we climed on!! And the Metal swing seats we had!!! How we made through alive and not totally mamed is beyond me!!

Does anyone remember the Parent/Teacher VolleyBall games they had??? My Mom would work with the Cheerleaders!! I rememberthe one year they did a routine to "Little Willie"!!!

I remember the May Pole in Kindergarten and how much I loved it!!

My class ('77) had the misfortune of being the first class to MISS everything!!! We had about 1 yr of French before it was eliminated. We had about 2 yrs of music!! The worst thing was...I could not wait to be a Blue Beret and the last Blue Berets they had were in '76. I got to the 6th grade and NOTHING!!! We could be monitors but NO BERET!! What was the point!! I still am mad about that....I think I need to talk to someone about that!!!

Anyway, those are some of my memories....I posted the Chiken Fat song on my Page and also in the Various Gym Activities Forum, I'm sure you will get a kick out of it!!
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Hi, I just joined this site and am having a blast reliving some old memories. I remember those parent/teacher volleyball games! We used to sit on the ledge of those great big windows (or at least somewhere near them) and watch the games. I remember being so proud that my mom was playing. I also remember a bunch of us girls performing on the stage one year (I graduated in '74) and singing Helen Reddy's tune: "I am woman here me roar..." Does that ring a bell for anyone?

Rollerskating with those key-type skates on concrete sidewalks and in the 164 park is still vivid in my mind (I can still feel my teeth shaking from the vibrations!) Riding bikes to Park Drive East and all around the town, playing Ring-O-Levio, playing in the alley behind my house on 73rd Terrace....such great vivid memories!
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i graduated '65 and used to ride bikes in Flushing Meadow Park before they even started constructing the World's Fair. when they started construction in about '63 i would ride around with my friends near some of the machinery (on weekends; no one was working) and once a guard caught us, took down my name and address and went to my house and "told" on me. my father got really mad because he thought i was becoming a juvenile delinquent, but we were just riding bikes.

and yes, i remember those "key" type skates that clamped onto your shoes.
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David,

That was a great list of memories. That time is so vivid.

Do you remember water fights in the park (water guns and water balloons)? and the mean Parky, Ed, yelling "Get that bike outta here?" I remember playing "fungo," and by the time I was old enough to hit the ball over the fence, over the fence became three outs and "top deck" was a home run.

I remember playing tackle football on the lawns of the garden apartments, which we called the "courts," and touch football in the alley behind your house. I also remember sledding in the alley across the street from your house, and when it was really icy you could sled all the way to the wall at the end.

I remember that no one liked "Mike's Pizza" and everyone went to Mama Lucy. Do you remember going to the YMCA on Saturdays? We used to walk outside with wet hair on winter days and our hair would freeze.

Finally, I remember how mean "Mrs. Berman" was. She was the french/art teacher.

One last thing: to the candy list I would add turkish taffy, "gold rush" bubble gum nuggets, and razzles.

Michael Ludwig
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Hi Michael,
Great to hear from you. I remember well the games we played in the "courts" in all kinds of weather. Your phone number was 544-3208. How close am I?? I remeber Mrs. Berman but I can't say I do so with fondness!
I remember one night your brother Steven had a sleepover party. You might have been staying with my brother Peter at my house. Anyway, in the middle of the night we all went out on the street screaming and banging pots and pans from your mother's kitchen. The neighbors called the police. LOL!!!
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David,

When I think back to that time, it amazes me how little grown ups figured in our recreational life. My parents were by no means neglectful, but we would run out of the house on Saturday morning and they would have no idea where we were all day.

We would gather in the park or in the alley and someone would show up with a stickball bat or a football or a "spaldeen" and we would start playing. Sometimes we decided to play tag or bicycle tag, which was always fun. I watch kids play today and their activities seem so structured. I remember that if teams were really mismatched then we would change the teams, because it wasn't really any fun to totally slaughter the other team (okay, maybe it was a little fun, but just for a while). Besides, if one side didn't really have a chance of winning, they would just go home or do something else.

Sorry about the phone number: BOulevard 3-3701. How old are we that there were named telephone exchanges when we were kids? I remember the other exchange in the area was LIggett.

I can't believe how vivid this all seems.

Michael
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my phone number was Liggest 4-2448.
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I'd forgotten what song we marched out of assembly to until I read your post and was transported back to the auditorium, wearing my navy skirt and white shirt. Those assemblies were such a tradition!

Someone wrote about cleaning the erasers in another thread - it may have been the one about Flushing trivia.

I don't know if Gene Simmons was related to the store owner you mentioned but Paul Stanley of KISS went to 164. I didn't know about that until recently. There's a photo of him here, top row, second from right:

http://www.patriciaweppler.com/ps164_1961_31.htm
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Wasn't the song "Anchors Aweigh"?
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Very Cool read David, really brings back a way better time, thanks.
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You said a mouth full. For years I couldn't remember much about anything. It all came back to me while I was reading this. What ever happened to Sandy Kingsley,Jay Finkelstein and Jeffrey Strauss? Do you remember Carol Barbuck and Susan Weiss ?
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david,
remember the "old lady matrons" at the Main Street Theatre. when we were watching a Godzilla movie and the big monster had a close-up and yelled really loud - one kid yelled "Sing Along with Mitch!" all the kids howled and started throwing stuff at the screen. the most popular and most fun thing to throw was the popcorn boxes squashed flat so they could be hurled like a discus

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