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2 pieces of trivia: dresses vs. pants and saying the pledge of allegiance

Does anyone remember these two pieces of trivia?:

When I was in kindergarten (I'm Class of '75), P.S.164's administration made a rule that girls were allowed to wear pants to school and were no longer restricted to wearing dresses! (How's that for liberation?!)

Somewhere around 4th grade, we were told that we had to say the Pledge of Allegiance differently from the way we had been saying it. We had to take the comma out, after the word "NATION." So, you had to say "One nation under G-d" all in one breath, without a pause after the word "nation." I could never get used to that, and I don't know of anyone else who goes around saying the Pledge of Allegiance that way!

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I do remember these things now that you wrote it!
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Yes. Now that I think about it, maybe I was in 1st grade when it happened, so that would've put you in kindgergarten.
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How about having to wear blue skirts , white shirts and a blue gross grain ribbon every friday for assembly!!!
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Oh, yeah! I forgot about that! I think I even have my blue gross grain ribbon, still. I just didn't remember what it had been used for! Thanks for the memory!
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If you forgot to wear the white shirt you were sent home to change. That would never fly in today's world. In most cases no one would be home to let the child in!
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I didn't remember that! Today, it wouldn't fly, not only because there's nobody home to receive the children, but also because there's hardly any discipline of that kind, in schools, anymore. They're too busy with the other kind of discipline: making sure the kids don't bring scissors or, worse, guns, into school!
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Wow I remember both of these things. I think the teacher who was pushing for pants was Mrs. Silverman? Does that sound right?
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That would make sense, since she was one of the younger, more "mod" teachers at school.
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I was class of 1959, and I remember once when I was in kindergarten, on a very cold winter day, my mother dressed me in what I remember as being very nice red plaid woolen pants and a matching sweater; she felt it was too cold for a skirt. She was CALLED IN TO SCHOOL and told to bring a dress for me to change into. Times have changed!
I remember also when the phrase "under God" was first inserted into the Pledge. My family was very upset; they were not at all against religion, but felt that the vitally important concept of separation of church and state was being undermined. It is an ongoing controversy, I think.

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Class of 1970
David Chaykin

Elizabeth Ferro

Bonnie Friedman Blaho

Helen Gitelson

Robin (Ingberman) Gundell

Norman Heller

Michael Karp

Melanie Korman Parsowith

Ruben G. Perlmutter

Jeffrey Schnee

Maxine Pinkas Smith

Glen Savits

Marc Schlanger


Class of 1971
Carol Barbuck

Neal Berger

Carrie Berman

Fonda Dorn Padgett

Bernie Feuer

Debra Fioranelli

Mindy Golann

Alice Goldstein

Karen Golubow Pollock

Marvin Gunz

Aliza Haklay

Jay Kapelmaster

Shari Kasch

Sandy Kingsley

Steven Leblang

Steven Ludwig

Lisa Melgood-Schiller

Jerry Mersel

Allan Meyerson

Corinne (Cory) Mosseri

David Neumann

Vivian Novakovic Nadasdi

Karen Ogof

Cindy Perrin Feinman

Donna Perlmutter

Jeff Rothman

Howard Rosenzweig

Barbara Schuster

Doug Shebroe

Jeff Strauss

Aviva (Stolarsky) Yoffe

Cynthia Turk Phillips

Silvia Wagner Labarre


Class of 1972
Jay Brandon

Karen Eisenberg

Jill Eisner

Deborah Epstein Solon

Glen Frohman

Julian Grant

Harvey Harris

Diane Hounsell

Ilisa Kaplan

Lynne Kasch-Gordon

Thomas Koeberling

Colin D. Lochner

Sam Louie

Peggy Mcalevey

Lawrence M. Nesseson

Rafael O. Farrell

John Prufeta

Erica Rothburd Schwartz

Lisa Sanders

David Schwartz

Cara (Chenensky) Usatch

Sonja (Sonny) Wagner

Stuart Weiss


Class of 1973
Carol Arken Muller

Seum Chung

Stacy Cort Schrager

Pat Duffy Rooney

Gisela Fleites Rogero

Dennis L. Gillman

Lenny Gitelson

Lynne Golubow Gans

Eli Hoch

Andrew Karp

Jerry Katz

Ellen Lane

Michael Ludwig

Susie (Weinberg) Margulis

Karen Neidenberg Kessler

Peter Neumann

StuartRoenblum/Lachman

Hope Schissel (Rosenhaus)

Eric Schmall

Donna Wiseberg


Class of 1974
Corey Adams

Owen Byrnes

Denise Cerveny

Fanny Chu Palacios

Michael Cohen

Paul D'Acri

Paul Devia

Deena Dorn Tanzman

Kathy Duffy-Fels

Elliot Edelman

Elliot Forchheimer

Michael Frankel

Marc Friedman

Jimmy Gallagher

Ronni Garcia

Debra Gerson (Levy)

Ivi Gilbert Schroeder

Vivian (Strauss) Gold

Ken Golubow

Bridget Griffin

Emily Haber

Stanley Jacobson

Marc Kirshman

Steven Kreisler

Steven Kuchuck

Jeff Lerner

Debra Levy (Gerson)

Ellen (Goldman) Lipkind

Annette Marsala (Yacobellis)

Michele Marder-Kennedy

Beth Meltzer-Abelow

Margaret Musselman Allyn

Sharon Nigro (Kagan)

Sharon Oder (Kaplan)

Javier Prado

Mark Pressman

Jay Pulga

Steven Rosenzweig

Mark Schneider

Maria Sclafani-Cimbolic

Patricia Siminoff Kiernan

Irene Sprung

Sheldon Sterling

Lisa Wartur

Sandra Wells Gibson, DDS


Class of 1975
Gus Berdini

Stephen Blom

Ricky Blum

Ron Brawer

Kevin Brooks

Patrick J. Conti

John Cosachov

Susan Eisner

Donna Fostini Oleson

Adrienne Geffner-Star

Howard Goldman

Gonen Haklay

Jacqueline Harris

Laura (Torrents) Heidenfelder

Peter Ingraldi

Michael Kagan

Dan Katz

Kris Kelkar

Judy Lauterstein (Bick)

Wanda Leftwich Branch

David LoCascio

Michael Majoros

Susan Melgood-McTaggart

Chisako Mitsumatsu/Fukuda

Eric Morgenstern

James Murray

Steven Meyerson

Kathy (Broughton) Mozon

Patty O'Brien

Janet R. Perlmutter/Schwartz

David Sattinger

Robert Schachter

Ed Siegel

Mark D. Siegel

Matt Siegel

Howard Stanger

Eric Sterling

Steven Straus

Kerry Stroschine

Susan Wilkins Galante


Class of 1976
Helen Anagnostos

Denise Appleby

Lorraine Blom-Sand

Linda Brandon Lortie

Rick Byrnes

Annette (Irizarry) Connell

Irene D'Andrea

Jeffry P. Diaz

Michael Diaz

Karen Donnelly

Perry Dorn

Danielle Eckrich (Stanzer)

Lorraine Fatjo

Michelle (Katz) Fox

Sandra (Wiseberg) Grieco

Howard Laufer

Marti Hendricks Hoskins

Norman Leung

Joan McAlevey

Michael Meltzer

Amy Mitchell-Washington

Meryl Nelson (Ginsberg)

Sandra Page (Salama)

Claire (Forchheimer) Panaro

Steven Perlmutter

Joseph Podolsky

Peter Schenkman

Mara Schnee

Lois Sclafani

Jeffrey Slotnick

Marla Wein (Rosenhaus)

Patricia Weppler

Joe Weston

Donna (Butz) Zalecky

Ruthanne (Pressman) Zentner


Class of 1977
Paul Anavian

Chuck Barberi

Robert Bloom

Alice Chiffriller

Magaly Colimon

Lori DiBisceglie Massaro

Rafael Dinarte

Jeff Dome

Jacqueline Duffy

Gary Friedman

Shari Gerson

Michael Grodzicki

Helen Haley Kells

Lawrence Lai

Craig Lopez

Paul Martin

Robert C. Meyerson

Adrienne Miller Sklar

Paul Miller

Ellen Morgenstern Seckar

Debbie O'Brien Nolan

Andrea Patten

Patricia Rose

Deborah Sager Birnbach

Ellen Schaeffer Brody

Stacey (Isserles) Sherman

MaryAnn Sola Colucci

Steven Sprung

Larry Stanger

Ken Straus

Michelle Tenzer Fuchs


Class of 1978
Marc Alan Appelbaum

Diana Berchan

Donna Colorio

Joe Colson

Leslie D'Acri

Lisa DiBisceglie

Dorothy Dooley

Kenneth Evan Edwards

Amy Eisner - Warshaw

Elizabeth Hennessey

Kingman Huie

Andrea Julian

Menahem Kanafi (Charles Kane)

Danny Kuchuck

Kathleen F. Lane

Brian Latture

Damon Lazar

Chris O'Brien

Chevonne Pannullo

Grace Protos (Cosachov)

Liz Torrents

Jack Williams


Class of 1979
Dante Amato

Theresa (Pietrzak) Bacchi

Aram Chenensky

Laura Cuddihy

Lisa Ellen Gormly

Beatriz Guadarrama

Steve Hoberman

Hans-Erik Horowitz

Doug Krehbiel

Joseph Milstein

David Rossett

Kelly Ryan

Arusha Stanislaus

Annette Torres Negrelli

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